NIFL-ASSESSMENT 2005: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:869] RE: Spelling discus
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Date: Thu Jan 20 2005 - 10:15:52 EST
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Return-Path: <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j0KFFqn23669; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:15:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:15:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <60DD22EEC446634DB3FE5A9F96B685D7C46F40@EXCHANGE.admin.ad.tvi.edu> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Aragon, Donna" <daragon@tvi.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-assessment@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:869] RE: Spelling discussion continues X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 2571 Lines: 58 Hello, I agree with Judy's comments below - students must experience being successful and reasoning skills along with foundation skills must be balanced. I have had students come to the realization that they cannot go forward until they step back and work on foundation skills. This realization only comes when they have experienced success as a result of teaching to their strengths. My humble two cents! Donna -----Original Message----- From: nifl-assessment@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-assessment@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Marie Cora Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:51 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:868] Spelling discussion continues Hi all, I am posting this message from colleague Judy Titzel. (I have to say that toward the end of Judy's message where she notes that "she can't spell worth a dang" - I actually know this to be true!:-)) Thanks, marie Interesting interchange....hopefully the list thread won't slide into the 'reading wars', or 'spelling wars', or 'math wars' where extremely complex sets of skills are polarized between foundation skills and higher order thinking skills. [Katrina, I'm certainly not saying your post is in that category.] Example: many of my students feel they can't 'do math' because they don't know their times tables (or can't write because they don't know how to spell). But they can and should be encouraged to exercise their reasoning skills while working on those less exciting foundation skills. There is enough research by now to assure teachers and learners that one does not need to be proficient in foundation skills (spelling, grammar, times tables) to use and strengthen thinking skills (solving math problems with mathematical reasoning; conveying thoughts through writing) and in fact, work on foundation skills should not occur in isolation but in the context of actually thinking through a problem, situation, task, etc. A balance must be struck, especially to enable adults students to experience success and gain a bit of self confidence in using their thinking skills. It's pretty discouraging to focus on those dang times tables for ever! For full disclosure, I must say that dispite holding a bunch of advanced degrees (i.e. over-educated), I can't spell worth a dang (my computer spell check often tells me it can't figure out what the heck i'm searching for and I have a hard time using the dictionary because it takes way too long to find a word when you only know the first letter!! and I'm not exagerating. ) I'm all for balance. Judy Titzel Providence, RI
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