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Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:1039] Re: What would help more students achieve their GED?
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I like all your ideas, and I would like to add one more:

Change the expectation of students, funders, and employers that a GED
should be short-term, under a year, and often under 50 hours of
If the only meaningful earnings gains which result from the GED come

1) enter at a low basic skills level, then we should expect those
students to 
be enrolled for several years; or

2) enter at a higher skills level but then are prepared to do
work, those students should be expected to be in a program more than a
and more than 3- 4 hours a week. They need an education that will
prepare them 
to succeed in (not just enter) college. This includes algebra, academic 
reading and writing, good basic science, good study skills, and some

This is a policy issue, as well as a research and practice issue. The
Department of Education has for many years allowed programs to count
as enrolled in federally-funded adult education programs who get at
least 12 
hours of instruction. This standard is very low, and far from a
expectation of what the these two groups of students need. This policy
be examined in light of the research by John Tyler that I mentioned in
earlier message. Then, of course, if the policy were to change, let us
say, to 
allow programs to count students enrolled for a minimum of 100 hours,
and state legislatures would need to pay for the increased hours of
and related services. Now here's where the research rubber hits the
road. What 
if solid research shows what needs to be done, and policy-making is
the other direction? But that's a topic for another list.

David J. Rosen

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