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Return-Path: <email@example.com> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id j5NFB0G07176; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <012e01c57806$d055ada0$0202a8c0@frodo> Errors-To: firstname.lastname@example.org Reply-To: email@example.com Originator: firstname.lastname@example.org Sender: email@example.com Precedence: bulk From: "Marie Cora" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <email@example.com> Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:1121] RE: Literacy needs X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 4819 Lines: 147 Hi Tina, Michael and everyone, I’m forwarding some technical info on the TABE from the Mass. SABES website (System for Adult Basic Education Support) which outlines the Locator, when to re-test, testing tips, etc. I’ve posted this before but thought it would be useful given this discussion. Go to: http://www.sabes.org/assessment/tabe.htm The folks at UMass, Amherst’s Center for Educational Assessment helped the state to hone in on some of the ‘hiccups’ if you will with TABE – esp. the test/re-test timeframe. Like Michael’s programs, here in MA we also avoid testing upon entry to the program – pretty much for all the reasons Michael noted. We go thru an in-take process as well in order to gauge personal background, experience, and particularly the student’s goals, and administer program-made placement tests in order to determine generally which level folks should be in. I think the requirement here states that you actually cannot administer the selected learning gains assessment until something like 2 weeks after the start of the program (Mass. folks – help me out on that bit if that’s not correct). I believe the TABE Locator counts as the program placement test as well (again, Mass practitioners help me if I’m not quite right on this). The other testing detail in this state is that although the NRS requires only 2 test administrations (one at entry, one at exit), Mass. requires 3 – one at entry, one half-way thru the program year, one at exit. We do this for 2 reasons: the first being that some students do not stay the entire year, but have done a great deal of work. If we don’t have an exit score for them, they can’t be counted. We can use the mid-year administration as their final test score. Also, for folks that do stay the whole year, that’s a lot of time gone by without checking in to see where one might have advanced, or where one might still need to be working. How about other programs out there? What’s your timeline like for administering the tests and how does that affect your program? marie -----Original Message----- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Tina_Luffman@yc.edu Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:23 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:1116] RE: Literacy needs Hi Michael, I agree with you that the reason our program will probably decide to continue giving the TABE at intake is not only to locate the students into curriculum as soon as possible, but also because we are likely to get lower TABE scores from them when they are first entering the process rather than later when they are back into school mode. Tina Tina Luffman Instructional Specialist, ABE-GED Verde Valley Campus 634-6544 firstname.lastname@example.org -----email@example.com wrote: ----- To: Multiple recipients of list <firstname.lastname@example.org> From: "Michael & Sunay Gyori" <email@example.com> Sent by: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: 06/22/2005 02:41PM Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:1113] RE: Literacy needs Hi Tina, If you need to demonstrate gains among a percentage of students being pre- and posttested, it's good to test them on intake, as you will likely get lower scores than you would once they're comfortable. Under the Adult Education & Family Literacy Act (AEFLA), students can receive up to 10 hours of instruction before they are tested. Michael Michael A. Gyori, Educational Linguist Language Development & Technology Director Language and Literacy Resource Center Hui Malama Learning Center, Inc. 375 Mahalani Street Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii, 96793, U.S.A. Tel: (808) 249-0111 Fax: (808) 249-0119 E-mail: email@example.com Website: www.huimalama.org http://www.huimalama.org/> ________________________________ From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Tina_Luffman@yc.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 11:07 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ASSESSMENT:1112] RE: Literacy needs Hi Michael, I agree with you that giving the TABE test on the first day of orientation is a discouragement for students. Because our funding requires that we test initially and then after a period of study, and then show educational gains, we feel it is necessary to maximize our potential for showing student progress and maintaining our grant program by giving the exam first. I can see good rationale behind waiting a few weeks and having students begin with group lessons to create a community atmosphere, especially for those with a negative educational background. I will consider your ideas and find out if my program is willing to try this out. Tina Tina Luffman Instructional Specialist, ABE-GED Verde Valley Campus 634-6544 firstname.lastname@example.org! mailto:email@example.com> <
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