[Assessment 1236] Re: {Dangerous Content?} RE: Assessment Digest, Vol 29, Issue 70

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Mary Lynn Simons macsimoin at hotmail.com
Sat Feb 9 15:23:10 EST 2008



Videos of good teachers teaching ESL are tremendously helpful. San Diego used to use them for new teachers and probably still does. Does anyone know where to get such videos? The main problem an inexperienced ESL teacher has is how to elicit language from students, and watching a good teacher is the best way to learn the techniques. The biggest mistake new ESL teachers make is too much talking themselves -- usually talking about things students cannot possibly understand.


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> I don't know if it's too late to add another comment. I am one of those people you describe: a part-time ESL teacher with a degree in another field. Until this winter I'd never taken an education course in my life. I came in with good knowledge of English (former editor and writer) and training as an ESL literacy tutor. In our school district, adult ed teachers can be paid for workshops and in-service training, and our program has offered a lot of both. But I've been told that I haven't absorbed enough educational theory and good practices through these offerings and have decided I really need some formal education. So I'm starting to take graduate classes but it's entirely at my expense. This is a fairly high price for a part-time teacher with no benefits to pay. It rankles me a bit when I see the full-time teachers in our district taking graduate classes at district expense so they can further their skills and climb up a pay ladder that starts 15 rungs above my head. Even if I wanted to take Education 101, I would be paying for it myself. You could argue that these other folks took basic classes at their expense before they were hired but most of them didn't come to their teaching jobs with a wealth of real-life experience and knowledge. In other words, I paid for my BA years ago as did they; I contributed the wisdom and knowledge gained from working with the language for 25 years, and now I'm paying for further education.

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> This is a long way of saying: We career change teachers can offer a lot but we could use a little help, too. Like basic ESL/educational theory classes, offered close to home and at shared expense. I would sign up in a second.

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> I would love to hear from the group about "professional development" challenges you face. How do we in-part learning theory to part-time staff with degrees but no educational back ground. How do we tap into the importance of training and have staff identify with continuing professional development. It seems to me that it would be of benefit to look at the experience of the Adult Education instructors and requirement from the federal grant but local authority can make up a large part of the requirement they have adopted which does not put professional development up front? Resources are needed to help instructors stay sharp for the students.

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