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Sharon Shoemaker sharon_shoemaker at indep.k12.mo.us
Thu Jun 17 10:11:16 EDT 2010


It is our district’s internet security.

Confusing!



Sharon L. Shoemaker

Literacy Coordinator

Independence Adult Education

600 W Mechanic

Independence, MO 64050

816-521-5507



Six essential qualities that are the key to success: Sincerity, personal integrity, humility, courtesy, wisdom, kindness. William Menninger





From: numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Michael Gyori
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:24 PM
To: The Math and Numeracy Discussion List
Cc: Brooke Denney
Subject: [Numeracy 393] Re: [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: Transitioning from GEDto Post-Secondary Ed - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIMETO: fields in the email addresses - Email has different SMTPTO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses



Why is SPAM in the subject line, along with all the rest?



Michael



Michael A. Gyori

Maui International Language School

www.mauilanguage.com <http://www.mauilanguage.com/>





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From: Sharon Shoemaker <sharon_shoemaker at indep.k12.mo.us>
To: The Math and Numeracy Discussion List <numeracy at nifl.gov>
Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 4:57:33 AM
Subject: [Numeracy 388] Re: [SPAM] - Re: [SPAM] - Re: Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

Absolutely, Gloria….and they are so talented. If you teach in an interesting way, they succeed beyond expectations.



Sharon L. Shoemaker

Literacy Coordinator

Independence Adult Education

600 W Mechanic

Independence, MO 64050

816-521-5507



Six essential qualities that are the key to success: Sincerity, personal integrity, humility, courtesy, wisdom, kindness. William Menninger





From: numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of pacarow at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:27 AM
To: numeracy at nifl.gov
Subject: [SPAM] - [Numeracy 384] Re: [SPAM] - Re: Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses



Sharon,

The answer given to you by that textbook company is indicative of the attitude many have regarding GED students. They have no conception of the abilities within the population of GED/ABE students. Success in the GED/ABE/ESOL classes involves going "out of the box" and delving into areas not necessarily contained within the binding of textbooks. Many of our students--as you all know--are students who have zoned out of the traditional process because of absolute boredom and the failure of the system to challenge their abilities.

Gloria Sward
Flagler Technical Institute
Palm Coast FL







-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Shoemaker <sharon_shoemaker at indep.k12.mo.us>
To: The Math and Numeracy Discussion List <numeracy at nifl.gov>
Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 3:14 pm
Subject: [Numeracy 383] Re: [SPAM] - Re: Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

Anne,



It’s some of us…but not just teachers. I asked on of our “GED” textbook companies if they would produce an Algebra 2 or Trig book for our students who want to go to college (they explain things so clearly.) They responded by saying GED students couldn’t understand and didn’t need that information. A little short-sighted I think.



Sharon L. Shoemaker

Literacy Coordinator

Independence Adult Education

600 W Mechanic

Independence, MO 64050

816-521-5507



Six essential qualities that are the key to success: Sincerity, personal integrity, humility, courtesy, wisdom, kindness. William Menninger





From: numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov <mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov?> ] On Behalf Of Clay, Anne
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:16 AM
To: The Math and Numeracy Discussion List
Subject: [SPAM] - [Numeracy 382] Re: Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses



A major barrier is “us” – well, not all of “us”.

Many teachers in Adult Education/GED teach only the skills necessary to “pass” the GED Math test, not to “excel” on the GED Math test. This really gets on my last nerve just as robotically teaching a five paragraph essay to “get passed” the essay though the student still struggles with daily writing needs such as a note to a supervisor or their child’s teacher…heaven help post-secondary writing needs!

If we teach skills, not a test, at each literacy level, we will be preparing our students for post-secondary education, workplace skills, life skills, and life-long learning…not to mention the benefit to the children in these families.

We are NOT “just” an Adult Education/ GED teacher, we are teachers!



Anne



Anne K. Clay, Lead Instructor

Polk Adult Education

Georgia Northwestern Technical College

466 Brock Road

Rockmart, GA 30153

Phone: 770-684-7521

Fax: 770-684-8710

New Email: aclay at gntc.edu







From: numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov <mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov?> ] On Behalf Of Dianna Baycich
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 1:14 PM
To: 'The Math and Numeracy Discussion List'
Subject: [Numeracy 382] Re: Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed



I would like to hear what folks think are barriers, too. I’m more of a reading and writing person and I would like to see the similarities and differences with math. One thing I see for writing is that GED teachers tend to teach students how to write a very formulaic 5 paragraph essay as a way to pass the essay portion of the GED test. Unfortunately, this in no way prepares them for the writing tasks they will be expected to do in postsecondary education. Are similar things happening in math? Or are the barriers different?



Dianna



From: numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov <mailto:numeracy-bounces at nifl.gov?> ] On Behalf Of Denney, Brooke
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 11:08 AM
To: numeracy at nifl.gov
Subject: [Numeracy 380] Transitioning from GED to Post-Secondary Ed



Hello Everyone!



I just finished presenting at the Louisiana Adult Education Conference where I spoke about transitioning from GED to PSE. But after speaking with many of their wonderful instructors, staffers, administrators, etc. about barriers, it dawned on me that perhaps the discussion list should discuss the barriers that our learners face, the barriers that our instructors face, and how might we try to overcome them? How can we prepare our learners for the world of higher education? I can't wait to hear what everyone thinks!!



Also, I wanted to WELCOME all the new members we have to the list!! I encourage you to post a brief introduction about yourself and tell us what you hope to gain from being apart of this list. If anyone has questions or concerns please feel free to contact me off list at denneyb at cowley.edu.



All my best to everyone,

Brooke Denney, Moderator

Math & Numeracy List

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