[Assessment 1239] Re: {Dangerous Content?} RE: Assessment Digest, Vol 29, Issue 70

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JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall crandall at umbc.edu
Sun Feb 10 19:00:19 EST 2008


This is great. Colorado is being a real leader in making it possible for
adult educators to gain recognition for their training. What do the
credits lead to? Are there financial incentives or a pay scale that
reflects this training?


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> Department of Education now has a Literacy Instruction Authorization

> Certificate that can be issued to people who pass four of five courses

> that are offered through the community college system.&nbsp; Courses are a

> combination of online, "face", and hybrid.&nbsp; Teachers in AEFLA

> programs are required to get the certification.&nbsp; The state provides

> some assistance with scholarship.&nbsp; They have also developed a system

> for staff development credit for workshops attended at state adult

> education conferences. <br><br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px

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> Message-----

> <br>From: Mary Jane Jerde <mjjerdems at yahoo.com>

> <br>Sent: Feb 9, 2008 1:15 PM

> <br>To: The Assessment Discussion List <assessment at nifl.gov>

> <br>Subject: [Assessment 1235] Re: {Dangerous Content?} RE: Assessment

> Digest, Vol 29, Issue 70


> <br><br>I remember going through the same things to get my masters.

> <br><br>Plus, a high percentage of students getting paid by their school

> district to take classes that I was in had not been out of school that

> long. It's a sad side effect to attempting to professionalize the

> profession. So many wanted their A and that was about it.&nbsp; It seemed

> to me that ongoing education ought to be the focus. For example, one

> graduate class a year with follow-up through the year to ensure

> application. <br><br>Thanks for listening,<br><br>Mary

> Jane<br><br><b><i>Gail Burnett &lt;gburnett at sanford.org&gt;</i></b>

> wrote:</assessment at nifl.gov></mjjerdems at yahoo.com><blockquote

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> information.<br><br>Hi,<br><br>I don't know if it's too late to add

> another comment. I am one of those

> people you describe: a part-time ESL teacher with a degree in another

> field. Until this winter I'd never taken an education course in my life.

> I came in with good knowledge of English (former editor and writer) and

> training as an ESL literacy tutor. In our school district, adult ed

> teachers can be paid for workshops and in-service training, and our

> program has offered a lot of both. But I've been told that I haven't

> absorbed enough educational theory and good practices through these

> offerings and have decided I really need some formal education. So I'm

> starting to take graduate classes but it's entirely at my expense. This

> is a fairly high price for a part-time teacher with no benefits to pay.

> It rankles me a bit when I see the full-time teachers in our district

> taking graduate classes at district expense so they can further their

> skills and climb up a pay ladder that starts 15 rungs above my head. Even

> if I wanted to take Education 101, I would be paying for it myself.

> You could argue that these other folks took basic classes at their

> expense before they were hired but most of them didn't come to their

> teaching jobs with a wealth of real-life experience and knowledge. In

> other words, I paid for my BA years ago as did they; I contributed the

> wisdom and knowledge gained from working with the language for 25 years,

> and now I'm paying for further education.<br><br>This is a long way of

> saying: We career change teachers can offer a lot but we could use a

> little help, too. Like basic ESL/educational theory classes, offered

> close to home and at shared expense. I would sign up in a

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> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>I would love to

> hear from the group about "professional development" challenges you face.

> How do we in-part learning theory to part-time staff with degrees but no

> educational back ground. How do we tap into the importance of training

> and have staff identify with continuing professional development. It

> seems to me that it would be of benefit to look at the experience of the

> Adult Education instructors and requirement from the federal grant but

> local authority can make up a large part of the requirement they have

> adopted which does not put professional development up front? Resources

> are needed to help instructors stay sharp for the students. <br><br>

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JoAnn (Jodi) Crandall
Professor, Education Department
Director, Ph.D. Program in Language, Literacy & Culture
Coordinator, Peace Corps Master's International Program in ESOL/Bilingual
University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC)
1000 Hilltop Circle, Baltimore, MD 21250
ph: 410-455-2313/2376 fax: 410-455-8947/1880
email: crandall at umbc.edu