[Numeracy 299] Re: Diagnostics for ABE students

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Ryan Hall sryanhall at gmail.com
Sun Apr 11 16:53:02 EDT 2010

I am glad you asked this question, Andrew, because it is something that I
have been discussing with my math teachers for awhile now.

We use the TABE (survey form, not the complete battery) to assess our
students' math skills and needs. We currently have four levels of math
classes, and we place students in those classes according to the items they
miss on the TABE. We are going on the third year using this system, and it
is working pretty well so far.

There are limits to the what the TABE test can tell us about students' math
skills and gains (an opinion I share with my math teachers); therefore, we
are very interested in finding additional assessments that could be used to
tell us more information. One idea is that we may need to use the complete
battery instead of the survey form of the TABE. Does anyone have any idea if
switching the complete battery form of the TABE would give a better analysis
of students' math skills? Are there other math assessments others find more
beneficial in the ABE math class?

Thanks again for posting this question, Andrew, and I look forward to
hearing about how others assess their students math skills and gains.

On 4/7/10 8:29 AM, "Andrew Isom" <isom at centerforliteracy.org> wrote:

> How do you all diagnose your students' math needs? I was wondering if there

> isn't a nice, extensive battery out there that examines and highlights the

> lower level skills as well as higher level skills. I'm thinking about my

> colleague who is a literacy specialist and tests students in various ways,

> usually in a timed fashion, for different literacy skills.


> Also, does everyone use the TABE? Our job is to raise our students 2 grade

> levels on the TABE, so I struggle with which skills to prioritize. This is

> especially difficult to answer because of the "Applied Mathematics" section.


> Any ideas, advice or suggestions would be much appreciated.


> Thanks~~


> Andrew J. Isom

> Math Specialist

> Center For Literacy

> North Philadelphia Community High School

> isom at centerforliteracy.org

> (215)744-6000 ext. 210

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