[Technology 793] Re: Update on One With One

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David Rosen djrosen at comcast.net
Tue Jan 2 11:52:19 EST 2007

Technology Colleagues,

I inadvertently sent a personal e-mail inquiry to the Technology list
last week. My questions (and miss-typed dates) may have left some
mistaken impressions about One WITH One that I would like to publicly
correct. When I saw that it had been posted I immediately emailed
Anita Webb and asked for a clarification. Co-director, Peg Van
Duyne, wrote me today with an update which I am glad to share. One
WITH One has had some impressive results over the years.

Peg wrote:

"Thank you for offering to send a second message to the NIFL list to
rectify the inadvertent email broadcast of a private question and a
potentially damaging claim that One WITH One is closed. I will take
you up on this for One WITH One’s reputation and for Anita’s and my
sake. Your correction can clarify our current corporate existence and
can affirm the contribution that One WITH One made to the profession
of workplace training and adult education in Boston for fifteen years
as Entrance: Office Careers.

Our record for 20 computer and language skills training cycles can be
viewed as one of the tops- for six cycles more than 78%- 95% of the
graduates competed for and were hired in training-related jobs and
for 14 cycles 100% were hired. 524 adult and young adult learners,
92% women and 8% men, graduated from this training. Some were
experienced professional business men from Africa. Others were
former military leaders from South Vietnam who had endured 15 years
of ‘re-education’ camps. Given the beginner-intermediate proficiency
in English with which our learners began the program, their
accomplishments demonstrate their will to enter a professional field,
starting over, and the strength of our training.

Success was not due to creaming- the majority came from circumstances
which disadvantaged their education. Some women came from The
Killing Fields, missing a literacy education in Khmer. Others came
from the middle east where the roman alphabet was unfamiliar. Other
women had been warehoused in public schools lacking any paper,
pencils and printing tools.

Your email states the proprietary school closed in 2004. ( the email
stated we closed in 1994- that’s a typo?). That’s so for the
computer and language skills training program: Entrance: Office
Careers. We also closed the volunteer tutor-mentoring program
Learning Partnerships which had brought together 3500 newcomers and
Americans to practice English conversation and enjoy intercultural
exchange. For 1 and 1/2 years One WITH One has been under the radar
screen in order to develop integrated publications.

In 2007 One WITH One will complete our ‘train-the-trainee’ and
‘train- the-trainer’ resources in educating and training adult
learners who want to enter college or office work.. Anita Webb and I
have edited a curriculum package dedicated to the beginner-
intermediate learner that integrates English for Speakers of other
languages, computer and business cultural training.

This was originally the training program called Entrance: Office
Careers, presented for twenty cycles and licensed by the Department
of Education for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts as well as the
employment training system. Today we call the entire program
“Experiencing English.”

This is a summary of one unit of the total curriculum package.
The Workplace Internship as a Learning Experience.
1. Introduction to The Workplace Internship as a Learning
2. Trainers’ Guide to Lessons that precede the unit so trainees/
adult learners gradually immerse themselves in business English and
cultural business practices to prepare for the internships.
3. Trainers’ Guide to administer the internships and coordinate
mentoring supervisors and HR employers willing to provide
internship sites.
4. Trainers’ Guide to Preparation Lessons so the trainees/adult
learners develop a vocabulary and a conceptual framework to learn and
gain experience in a corporate internship.
5. Trainees’ Workbook for Preparatory Lessons. Here we discuss
assessments and evaluations- assessments of one self as an internee,
of the supervisor and by the supervisor.
6. Trainers’ Guide for ‘preparation-for-the-internship” classes
and ‘post-internship-debrief’ classes for the internship and
Internship Journal.
7. Internship Journal to be handed out week by week by the
internship coordinator.
8. “Experiencing English” is a short paper to name and explain
our approach to adults who learn English in an immersion program.
9. Summary of the One WITH One Teaching Principles.
10. EFF comparables list."

David J. Rosen
djrosen at comcast.net

On Dec 29, 2006, at 7:20 AM, David Rosen wrote:

> Hello Anita,


> Is One WITH One still in Boston? And is it also then in Toronto?

> Is Peg Van Duyne still with One WITH One in Boston? A quick search

> of the Web lists One With One as a "closed proprietary school" as

> of 1995. I had no idea. Peg and I had had some conversations, I

> think in 1994, about publishing One WITH One curriculum, and then

> I never heard from her. Can you enlighten me?


> Thanks.


> All the best,


> David


> David J. Rosen

> Senior Associate

> Newsome Associates

> 7 Newsome Park

> Boston, MA 02130

> newsomeassociates.com

> djrosen at comcast.net




> On Dec 28, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Anita Webb wrote:


>> Hello elisters,


>> My name is Anita Webb and I’m the Co-Director of One WITH One.

>> This is my first posting to the list. I’ve enjoyed reading your

>> contributions and suggestions. Thank you all.


>> At One WITH One, we offered an integrated ESOL / office skills

>> training program for 15 years in Boston. Our young adult and

>> adult participants had achieved beginner to beginner-intermediate

>> English skills by the start of the program.


>> We taught touch typing, beginning with electronic typewriters,

>> with an instructor present in each 50-minute session for the first

>> 6 weeks. Participants typed letter combinations on paper to learn

>> the different keys, using our own typing textbook – based on the

>> experience of our teaching staff and a bilingual professional

>> typing instructor – which we used for fourteen years. In a class

>> of 25-30 participants in total, there were only 8-10 typists in

>> each session. Training sessions took place in the morning, and in

>> the afternoon typists practiced in labs monitored by an assistant

>> who also proofread their assignments for immediate feedback on

>> using the correct fingers for each key.


>> After the first 6 weeks, the learners moved to typing on

>> computers, using Mavis Beacon, and later a program that tested

>> speed and accuracy. At the end of the nine-month program, most

>> participants typed at least 40 wpm, with some typing at 50 wpm or

>> higher.


>> We found this method very effective for two reasons. One, the

>> learners had to produce one perfect set of letters for each

>> lesson. Each set was about 5 lines of letters. They could not

>> erase mistakes. This usually required each person to type each

>> set several times, thereby repeating the finger movements again

>> and again, “programming” the movements into her fingers.


>> Two, an instructor in the session was essential for learner

>> success each day. Many participants had to develop hand-eye

>> coordination, transpose letters and sounds b and v and e and i and

>> sustain patience. The instructor provided much needed

>> encouragement and individual coaching after she led each session

>> with a brief lesson or instruction for building accuracy or

>> speed. The instructor was active throughout each session in

>> observing that each person was using the correct fingers for each

>> key, and that each person was saying the letters – not the words -

>> in her head in English as she typed.


>> Employers had set 40 wpm as a basic requirement for employment in

>> an entry level office job and out of 20 cycles, 100% of the

>> participants in 14 cycles were hired. Currently we are preparing

>> our curriculum with resources for novice teachers as well as

>> learners who have achieved beginner-intermediate English. These

>> materials combine English language learning with office skills and

>> cultural skills development. Would anyone like to beta-test some

>> of our manuals and share your feedback with us?


>> Anita H. Webb

>> Co-Director, One WITH One

>> anita_h_webb at yahoo.ca

>> 416-588-3533 (Toronto, Ontario)




>> Craig Alinder <info at gaming-pc.net> wrote:

>> Barbara,


>> I have taught elementary school for 8 years, and we have what you

>> might call a "keyboarding program" at the elementary level. I have

>> to agree that learning keyboarding at an early age can make a huge

>> difference, which is why we encourage our students to learn

>> keyboarding skills. Our main way of teaching at this level is the

>> computer program Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing from Broderbund. Our

>> students follow the lessons and learn at their own pace. As a

>> reward for completeing several lessons the software offers a

>> typing game. This is an added incentive to complete more lessons.

>> The one rule I have had to enforce with this software is that they

>> do not go straight to the games. They have to earn access to the

>> games. Find out more: http://www.broderbund.com/jump.jsp?

>> itemID=4815&itemType=CATEGORY


>> To be honest with you I used the same program to learn correct

>> keyboarding technique as an adult. I never learned in school and

>> had to learn as an adult. I hope this helps.


>> Craig Alinder

>> Albuquerque, NM

>> http://www.refinancequiz.com

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: barbarasg8 at aol.com

>> To: technology at nifl.gov

>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:19 AM

>> Subject: [Technology 760] Re: Technology List topic: Keyboarding


>> Hello group,


>> It would be helpful to hear how computer keyboarding is being

>> taught around the country, and who is teaching it? I come from a

>> background in occupational therapy and have taught touch typing to

>> hundreds of students from 1st - 6th grades. Based on what I've

>> learned, teaching young students at the second or third grade

>> level is very practical. At that age, children have not become

>> habitual "hunt and peck" typists. Because they are still learning

>> to read and spell and can benefit from using touch typing skills

>> to practice word lists and compose short writing assignments.


>> I see older students enter computer classes having already

>> developed typing skills that are inefficient and hard to

>> remediable. Lack of good habits and slower input make a big

>> difference when students are required to produce longer papers in

>> high school, and afterword as they compete in the workplace.


>> Another question about teaching/learning touch typing: how might

>> it contribute to ESL students at any age, or adults with LD and

>> people in adult literacy classes?


>> I have been reading these emails for months but never contributed

>> to the discussion.

>> Thank you for the opportunity.


>> Barbara Oliver, COTA/L

>> Tulsa OK

>> barbarasg8 at aol.com




>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: cgrimaldi at lagcc.cuny.edu

>> To: technology at nifl.gov

>> Sent: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 2:09 PM

>> Subject: [Technology 752] Re: Technology List topics for 2007


>> Hi Mariann, I would also like to learn more about teaching our

>> students make better use of their cell phones. Most students have

>> them but many don't know how to use their voicemail, pictures,

>> downloading, etc., especially older students. The next topic I'd

>> like to see discussed more is the issue of slow computer learners-

>> either due to lack of experience, age, low literacy skills, lack

>> of interest/need, no computer in the home. Carolyn Grimaldi Center

>> for Immigrant Education and Training LaGuardia Community College

>> 29-10 Thomson Ave. C250 Long Island City, NY 11101 (718) 482-5067

>> www.lagcc.cuny.edu/ciet/ cgrimaldi at lagcc.cuny.edu >>> "Mariann

>> Fedele" <MariannF at lacnyc.org> 12/13/06 2:48 PM >>> Thank You,

>> David! What would others on the list like to see in terms of

>> specific topics discussed next year? If one that David mentioned

>> is particularly interesting to you please feel free to second the

>> motion. Regards, Mariann Mariann Fedele Associate Director, NYC

>> Regional Adult Education Network Literacy Assistance Center

>> Moderator, NIFL Technology and Literacy Discussion List 32

>> Broadway 10th Floor New York, New York 10004 212-803-3325

>> mariannf at lacnyc.org www.lacnyc.org -----Original Message-----

>> From: technology-bounces at nifl.gov [mailto:technology-

>> bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of David Rosen Sent: Wednesday,

>> December 13, 2006 11:30 AM To: The Technology and Literacy

>> Discussion List Subject: [Technology 749] Technology List topics

>> for 2007 Hi Mariann, I would like to see the Technology list

>> introduce our field to some technologies in the context of their

>> use/possible use in adult ed. These might include, for example: 1)

>> mobile phones 2) web-accessible PDAs 3) tablet PCs 4) e-books and

>> e-book readers 5) wikis for writing projects 6) electronic white

>> boards 7) inexpensive (under $500) multimedia (e.g. LCD)

>> projectors 8) video Ipods with high quality video goggles

>> (intended for video but maybe useful for reading text?) David J.

>> Rosen djrosen at comcast.net

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David J. Rosen
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